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Silverback Gorillamaxx Build - 01.28.2009, 02:52 AM

Ok guy going to need some input on this one so I am going to build it with your help. Heres some pic of the chassis I just picked up I plan on using the UE monoblock with the UE 110mm titanium centershaft.

Btw I need battery straps should I get the g-maxx ones or have you guys found a better alternative since I have seen alot of threads of the g-maxx ones ripping. I was thinking about polishing the lower plate but it is just going to get nicked and scratched . So I was thinking of hard annodizing it possibly black and keeping the top plates and braces polished (why I named it Silverback) but I still havent decided, any suggestions?
Now I need to decide what bulks I am going to use I have a like new set of 6061 Hardcores or a like new set of 7075 GA's. The Hardcore are lighter but not as strong as the GA's. The GA are heavy but bullet proof and I have a set of sweetstrobes to go with them. I was planning on running the titanium short shock towers duh engineering sells with shorter shocks much like the g-maxx suspension but with rpm truetrac and arms. I am not sure it will work with extreme angles of the shocks and if there is clearence issues. This is a picture of the GA'swith sweetstrobes and knuckleheads:

Here a pic of the Hardcores they will have titanium bulkhead braces notice the milled pocketing for reducing weight.

The VBS is out of the picture right now because its on another truck so I need to chose form the above. Which do you guys prefer and why?
Next I need to decide between 6 spider or 8 spider diffs (I have both) and what vicosity oil in the front and back. I am mostly a basher but I might decide too race so what ever the best way too go. That is what I have right now and would like some input on the above. Any sugestions or Ideas are welcome.
   
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01.28.2009, 03:34 AM

On the battery straps, the 3/4" ones broke on me, the 1" ones were strong


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01.28.2009, 04:47 AM

DAM.. Nice build sir.. Looking forward to watching it!, thanks for involving us.. Ok lets start here!..
1. I like the foundation your starting with, Yes I’ve broken my CF once (but it was completely my fault) I was jumping 40’ attempting back flips and landing square on my body!.. hahaaaa the good old days..
2. I recently polished everything on my Gmax and looks great!.. You might want to check it out (http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...=11434&page=12 ) pages 11 & 12, sure it gets scratched and dinged but we don’t build shelf queens here.. LOL.. I would save your money on the hard anodizing and put it better use..
3. Build it to last and to take a beating go with your GA’s..
4. Shocks I can’t help you there / have nothing to say of any value ask / look for George16 and or Jordan they are running your towers and will be able to advise better. I did like my MSR 8 though http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11681
5. 8 teach spider diffs would be my preferred choice. I run the 7000 in the front and 3000 in the rear.

That’s my two cents and remember your asked of it!.. Hope that helps??

Have a great one Sir and best of luck!.. I’ll be watching, cheering and complaining the whole way through..


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01.28.2009, 06:32 AM

Seeing the picture now, the monoblock will be perfect for that setup.

1. You can buy the straps from Gorillamaxx or RCmonster or you can cheap out by making it yourself. I made mine.
2. I second Shaun on this; use the 7075 GA unless you really want to run the VBS.
3. I had been using the racerx shocks(4shock setup). Black springs on rear and blue springs in the front. I'm running 50wt oil all around.
4. I'm also using the 8 spyders with 3K rear and 7K front.

I recommend UE EXT suspension for the ultimate basher setup.


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01.28.2009, 08:12 AM

Nice build, I'll be watching this thread.

About the straps with Lipos the gorillamaxx straps will do their job. But if using some other brand like a123 shotgun shape (like I do in my g2r) no go.

What electrics have you planned?
   
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01.28.2009, 09:34 AM

I stole Hardstyles Idea and ended up using bike inner tube.

It seems to be working like a charm...
   
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01.28.2009, 10:11 AM

Argh you copycat!
   
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01.28.2009, 05:53 PM

I just doubled up on the gorillamaxx straps, couldnt find anything with the right type of mounting style, and inner tube idea came along after I had already done the order.

Use the 8 spider diffs since you have 'em, but the 6 spiders work fine for me as it is.

Use the GA bulks, I dont like the idea of bulks with that much material removed, even if they are HCR and not the Integy crappy copies.

Low profile towers and revo lenght shocks has been done before, works remarkably well, but suspension travel is obviously limited- great for onroad or fairly light duty off roading me thinks.
   
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01.28.2009, 06:12 PM

I made my own battery straps. I sew it together to make the loops on both ends and bolted it down to the chassis I also made. It only cost me $4.00.



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01.28.2009, 07:01 PM

Ok guys I cleaned up the chassis a little more did a quick mothers hand polish on the upper plates and x braces.In the background of one of the pics is the bulks with sweetstrobes I will probably be using.


I am still looking into getting the chassis black hard coated but if its too much $ forget it. I ordered new batt straps and new side straps and new foam pads.
Another thing I need to decide is which skid I am going to use I have some excellent shape old school Maxxtraxx 3mm titanium skids( do any of you guys remember these) and some excellent shape 2mm titanium Hardcore skids. If I run the 3mm I probably wont run bumpers to offset the weight, they seem to be indestructable.
I think you guys have talked me into running the ga bulks with 8 spiders but not sure on the sweetstrobes yet because if I use the thinner titanium towers there going to be a gap at the mounting point.We will see. Since the brushless has more torque than a nitro I think the 8 spider will be the best choice also. Does anyone have a extra g-maxx motor mount they want too sell I really cant justify spending $40 for a new one that I probably wont be using very long especially if the slipperential come out pretty soon. If not I will just use the $8 stocker. I dont want to give up suspension travel . I thought with the angle of the shock being more that a shorter shock (ofna front) would work without loseing travel I will come to that when I get too it. So a solid backbone is what you guys want thats what its getting sure it going to be a little heavier but with brushless power who cares. Hopefully it lives up too its name "Silverback" for being a rare and powerful beast. LOL
   
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01.28.2009, 07:16 PM

The thing with the DUH towers is that they pretty much are just shorter, the angle of the shocks wont change all that much- not compared to the gorillamaxx towers at any rate (shocks mount further out towards the ends of the arms vs stock type a-arms, and the tower has mounting points closer to the center line of the truck).



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I'd say stick with the UE knuckles heads and some ofna/ supermaxx/ 1/8 buggie shocks to be honest- sexier and stronger with better tuning options.

I do remember the maxxtraxx skids- seen 'em on the Bmaxx, one of the BL monsters on the RCnuts website:

http://rcnuts.hiamplidude.com/

And just trim down a stock motor mount to look like Gorillamaxx one, piece of cake and much cheaper

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01.28.2009, 07:21 PM

As long as they're not Integy titanium skids, you're good to go. I'm using hardcore ti skids and the weight is negligible with the motor's power/torque. Too light and it will be uncontrollable at high speeds.

I agree with using the knuckleheads towers.

I did not remove the other motor mounting position on the stock mount to help dissipate heat.


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01.28.2009, 11:52 PM

Have you ever seen integy on any of my nitro trucks lito. I learned a long time ago not too touch that stuff. It sounds like the short duh tower wont work too good so UE knucklehead it is. I just thought keeping everything low cog woulnt hurt.
Suspension now: rpm true track(need too buy)@~$80 or UE widetrack (I have allready) or racer x with setbacks if I can find them for ~$350 (need too buy) or UE ext set up(need too buy)~$150 used for 15mm version. What do you guys think ? The only down fall to rpm is I would have to buy 3.3 spec cvds because I dont think the plastic sliders will hold up.But I have a couple sets of UE cvds in my stock.
I almost forgot steering 1 hitech high torque servo or two hitech 645?

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01.29.2009, 12:05 AM

Just pulling your leg on the Integy comment . I'm recovering from the flu so I'm stuck in front of my laptop.

Racerx/EXT with setbacks, 8mm UE cvds gets my vote.


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01.29.2009, 02:15 PM

Quote:
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I almost forgot steering 1 hitech high torque servo or two hitech 645?
Go with one high torque servo..
I really like these:

JR - DS8711 or the airtronics 94780

They are both digital have great speed and both sevo's have at least 400oz of torque

The only draw back is the price.. the JR is 145.00 and Airtronics is $120 ish...

Best of luck and looking good....


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