My 360 gave me the 3rrod!!!

[What's_nitro?]

I thought the 2 RRoD was a heat issue, 3 RRoD is a hardware failure. Usually it means that solder connections under the chips are not making contact, which is why replacing the X-clamp with spacers and tightening the hell out of it usually works.

[Modding_out]

May be it is, But all I know there's some thing wrong with the gpu. And I say "glitch" because why else would it work fine a few min after the fact...or immediately after in my case, just powering it on a different way

If it had true broken solder connection, powering it on/off sure ass hell wouldn't have gotten me any ware.

Now wouldn't over heating come before power failure? solder melts at 200 to 840 °F, So lets go right in the middle at 300-450*F cause I know they wouldn't use the cheapest grade solder cause it's a bad conductor of electricity(and corrodes) And I'm almost positive they didn't use silver solder cause that's way to expensive. But back on topic, I know for a fact it never it got hot enough to melt the solder.....that's Hot! The hottest it ever got was some were around 98 case temp right behind the chips, But that was with the cd drive running full bore playing halo3. (My computers drive gets ef'in hot two, what gives? but i digress)

[t-maxxracer32]

Originally Posted by Modding_out

This is how, I see it.

The 3rrod is a cooling issue(for the most part) And this console was never allowed to or played long enough at any given time to over heat. Also since my 3rrod seamed to be more of a glitch,(and first time ever) than the more permanent kind of 3rrod I'm going to fix the problem before it starts.


t-maxxracer32 If I run into any problems doing the x-clamp (delete) mod, I'll give you a call. But on the other hand did you ever think that maybe letting the 360's go like that might be causing the dependability problems after the fact?

Also, in conjunction with x- clamp removal(gonna bolt the chip set strait to the mother board) I'm gonna remove some of the internal baffles in the grates to allow more air in. How does that sound guys?

generally the 3 rings just mean a cold solder joint and its an easy problem to fix. hit me up if you have any problems because it really is not that hard. I actually have a few 360s i need to fix this weekend (tomorow morning possibly) so if you want me to make a video for you ill try and get it done tomorow morning.

typically the xclamp fix will indefinetly fix the xbox because it is so tight that it cant have a cold solder joint but whos to say really..

add some fans and stuff if you want.. I added a set of fans to mine and got an upgraded whisper fan.

Originally Posted by What's_nitro?

I thought the 2 RRoD was a heat issue, 3 RRoD is a hardware failure. Usually it means that solder connections under the chips are not making contact, which is why replacing the X-clamp with spacers and tightening the hell out of it usually works.

2 rings is supposed to mean that the system simply overheated. 3 rings is a number of issues but usually is caused because of a cold solder joint like you said.

ive done what they call a "reflow" fix where you heat up the cpu and gpu with a heat gun untill the solder joins back together but that leads to more problems because you are heating up a large amount of the xbox for a minute or 2.

but ya the best fix is to get some washers and nuts then tighten it up real good like you said. Also on every xbox i fix i get 2 pennies and wrap them up with electrical tape so no copper shows then i glue them to each ram chip on the back. (where those sticky baindaids are usually at. this applies pressure to those and the copper allows them to cool off.

on a side note. on the newest round of elites they dont even have these ram chips on the back, and this is just another thing they fixed from the previous versions.

Originally Posted by Modding_out

May be it is, But all I know there's some thing wrong with the gpu. And I say "glitch" because why else would it work fine a few min after the fact...or immediately after in my case, just powering it on a different way

If it had true broken solder connection, powering it on/off sure ass hell wouldn't have gotten me any ware.

Now wouldn't over heating come before power failure? solder melts at 200 to 840 °F, So lets go right in the middle at 300-450*F cause I know they wouldn't use the cheapest grade solder cause it's a bad conductor of electricity(and corrodes) And I'm almost positive they didn't use silver solder cause that's way to expensive. But back on topic, I know for a fact it never it got hot enough to melt the solder.....that's Hot! The hottest it ever got was some were around 98 case temp right behind the chips, But that was with the cd drive running full bore playing halo3. (My computers drive gets ef'in hot two, what gives? but i digress)

Ive messed around with the 360s with the case off and leave them on for hours to test the heat and have never had them get even close to "overheating"

honestly i just think its a malfunction with them that xbox has a hard time fixing (they may have it now with their newer boards----even the halo 3 editions have problems and they made a new board since then--)

[Modding_out]

I intend to do mine tomorrow Morning too, If you make a vid I'd like to look at it.