New Arizona SB1070 Law

[rabosi]

To be fair, everyone in Arizona (and the whole country imo) regardless of color should have to carry proof of citizenship. Mexicans or brown people are not the only illegal immigrants. There are also many illegal Europeans and Asians here. I think a national I.D. card would be a great idea. No I.D. card, no government services. I can only see someone being against the I.D. card if they have something to hide or are fearful of law enforcement abuses. But in that case you would also have to be against the Arizona law (law enforcement abuses).
I'm against illegals and the freebies they get but if you think that they account for the majority of our tax dollars, then you have been drinking the Kool-aid. IMO most of the waste come from legal americans scamming the system in some way. This includes businessmen and politicians.
Concerning illegals, I've heard some of them are able to acquire legal documents such as SS cards and driver's license by paying off employees that work in those offices which if true is a travesty itself.

[pinkpanda3310]

Originally Posted by rabosi

I'm against illegals and the freebies they get but if you think that they account for the majority of our tax dollars, then you have been drinking the Kool-aid. IMO most of the waste come from legal americans scamming the system in some way. This includes businessmen and politicians.

Your right, they are no the biggest portion of tax, but don't you reckon it's frustrating working and living in a place where illegals can just show up and are given the money you paid in tax. 'Nevermind building a new school we've got to build a detention centre.'

And don't you worry about the white collars, Skase will go down in Australian history as a complete f#!@* and *#@!#$ with ^%$#@! dirty !@#$%$........

[BrianG]

Originally Posted by rabosi

...I'm against illegals and the freebies they get but if you think that they account for the majority of our tax dollars, then you have been drinking the Kool-aid. IMO most of the waste come from legal americans scamming the system in some way. This includes businessmen and politicians...

I must have missed this. And no, I doubt it's the majority of tax dollars, but it's an amount that we can quantify and should NOT be paying.

[rabosi]

Originally Posted by BrianG

I must have missed this. And no, I doubt it's the majority of tax dollars, but it's an amount that we can quantify and should NOT be paying.

Agreed. Any dollars is too much. I was directing to the folks who say they should leave because too much taxes etc etc. I know it's not perfect here, but I feel it's the best country in the world by far. If we could only figure out how to use/control our money better. (If I could only figure that myself).
As for amnesty, I'm an immigrant myself and I just hate the fact that illegals are jumping the line so to speak. That's one of the reason I think amnesty is a bad idea. It rewards the rule breakers.