No ask, no tell me

[reno911]

Originally Posted by kulangflow

I think it's okay to have differing opinions about all of this, but it's pretty tough to say you know for a fact one way or the other, regardless of how strong one's opinion may be.

By all means I hope I do not portray the image that I have any idea that I know what I am talking about. I have a few gay friends and have had this conversation, argument, debate many many times. From those conversations, some with my friends, my friends and I have come to the conclusion that they have made a decision to be gay, due to their personal lifestyles and paths they they took getting to today.

[kulangflow]

Originally Posted by reno911

By all means I hope I do not portray the image that I have any idea that I know what I am talking about.

That wasn't directed toward you. It was just a general thought for everyone in the discussion. It helps keeps things civil and interesting when people remember that none of this can really be proven, so we're just sharing ideas.

I worked with many gay people when I lived in California. I never ended up being friends with them. Not because of hate, but just because the flamboyance of many of them was irritating. Even the non-flamboyant ones ended up acting flamboyant to fit in with the others. Not a big fan of that.

Also, regarding evolution, we should remember that the theory is a gradual process of keeping good traits and leaving off the undesirable ones. It doesn't necessarily mean the undesirable ones don't occur (extra fingers, really short people, politicians, etc).