Nitro sucks!!!!!!

[BrianG]

14: Improves your math skills. Calculating the optimum mixture based on temperature, humidity, and planetary alignment takes some pretty advanced stuff!

LOL, someone should start a "Advantages of Nitro" thread with all these on there.

And an amended #9:

9: Carrying around the starter box, glow plugs, extra fuel, batteries for the receiver, batteries for the starter, and an extra gallons of fuel will get you stronger as well...good for your muscles and cardio... And if you choose to forego the starter box, the purist route of repeatedly yanking on that pullstring a billion times will also strengthen your arms. Just be sure to switch sides once in a while to maintain an even muscle tone.

[_paralyzed_]

15. the vibration of nitro engines constantly loosens screws, making tear down and rebuilding easier, which is necessary since your motor mount screws loosened changing your gear mesh requiring spur and clutchbell maintenance.

[jayjay283]

my favorite thing about nitro was the police can hear you from a mile away playing in a parking lot at 2am obviously under the influence, and it gives our civil servants a good hour to make fun of you and ask you crap about your car while noticing how red eyed you are knowing your heart is about to fall out of your chest. Brushless is like a 9mm with a silencer LOL. I roll that thing in a lot by my house (old sears closed down) and the police station is less that a block away. Never had "the man" roll up on me

[Ryu James]

are there really still nitro purists these days? cuz if there is they are really going to have their feelings hurt should they come across that list. very well put together. you almost had me convinced to switch to nitro.

you know what i dont get, all the 1/8 pro drivers who grace the covers of magazines and are still holding up some dirty nitro. i thought the pros were supposed to be at the forefront of this industry. i mean, i think to myself, "those pros must only drive those nitros because their contract requires them too." why the hell arent they pushing their sponsors to get with the times and get a brushless kit made pronto and then let the pro sell the hell out of it on the covers. or do the pros really love nitro that much still? do they not want to admit they are racing a dying breed? i just want to hear an honest opinion from like Drake, or Truhe, or Cavalieri. not some sponsor written statement about how much they love their newest nitro kit. have any of them even driven an 1/8 brushless? some of you members out in SoCal must see them at the tracks. do they bring their brushless setup to the track at 1am when no one is there so they can secretly have some real fun without pissing off their sponsor? enquiring minds want to know.

[BL_RV0]

I personally have not seen that, but I'll go to more tracks at 1am to really find the truth!

[Rivermaxx]

Cmon guys with all this shit talking somebodies got to back it up. lets see some mph numbers and video to prove it. Make me a believer lets see some top speed numbers with your buggies and mt"s. Somebody in this brushless elite crew got to have some sort of video of your truck truggy or buggy haulin ass and winning races. I am going to build my brushless truck too hall ass but I want to see what its potential can be. BTW Lito, that video dont count because I cant see a thing on that gps, unless someone was there to back it up. If anyone can break records it should be you guys, well go out and do it! instead of bitching and complaining about how much you hate nitro. I am not hating at all. I just want some proof because talk is cheap. Make me a believer I am half way there anyway.LOL Good question! Why is the top spots in the championship still held by nitro if brushless has been out for 5 years. Please dont get mad at me for this post but I didnt start this crap shoot. Peace

[BrianG]

Originally Posted by Rivermaxx

...Why is the top spots in the championship still held by nitro if brushless has been out for 5 years....

It's already been said; those guys seem to be stuck in the dark ages. People fear what they don't understand.

As far as proof goes, just look at Nic Case's record... Yeah, it's not a MT, but still...

[Rivermaxx]

Nic cases record is truely amazing I do admit that. How many brushless motors does he have under the lid though? If those guys are in the dark ages why doesnt someone from this forum go out and whoop some butt! instead of talking trash.You can talk bad about the winning team all you want but in the end your still the loser. Right?

[jayjay283]

Stum a member here.. Stumblinh a few banned names ago on the traxxas forum, ripped his revo not even trying at about 64mph, he wasn't even trying just messing around for us on the trx site to test the system. I know and he knows it could have hit 75+, Ive done 75+ but that was with a losi speed t (1/10th) on 3s 4800 it flew in the air and hit me and broke my ankle and I not having health insurance sat at home drinking whisky for the pain for a week

[BrianG]

Originally Posted by Rivermaxx

Nic cases record is truely amazing I do admit that. How many brushless motors does he have under the lid though? If those guys are in the dark ages why doesnt someone from this forum go out and whoop some butt! instead of talking trash.You can talk bad about the winning team all you want but in the end your still the loser. Right?

I believe Nic has just one motor.

I can't speak for others here, but I don't race. I just like to go out and play. Besides, everyone knows it's 10% vehicle, 90% driver.

Really though, you're in the wrong forum to change anyone's mind about nitro vs BL. If you want to hear comments from nitro fanboys, go to any one of the nitro vehicle subforums at the Trx forum. Plenty of misinformed/delusional people there...

[Rivermaxx]

Originally Posted by BrianG

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Really though, you're in the wrong forum to change anyone's mind about nitro vs BL. If you want to hear comments from nitro fanboys, go to any one of the nitro vehicle subforums at the Trx forum. Plenty of misinformed/delusional people there...

I am not trying to change anyones mine if anything I want you guys to change my mind I am open minded. I am just wanting to see all the nitro haters back up their claims. Nothing personal to anyone but if your going to bash nitro at least be the winner of the race. Right?

[lincpimp]

Originally Posted by Rivermaxx

Cmon guys with all this shit talking somebodies got to back it up. lets see some mph numbers and video to prove it. Make me a believer lets see some top speed numbers with your buggies and mt"s. Somebody in this brushless elite crew got to have some sort of video of your truck truggy or buggy haulin ass and winning races. I am going to build my brushless truck too hall ass but I want to see what its potential can be. BTW Lito, that video dont count because I cant see a thing on that gps, unless someone was there to back it up. If anyone can break records it should be you guys, well go out and do it! instead of bitching and complaining about how much you hate nitro. I am not hating at all. I just want some proof because talk is cheap. Make me a believer I am half way there anyway.LOL Good question! Why is the top spots in the championship still held by nitro if brushless has been out for 5 years. Please dont get mad at me for this post but I didnt start this crap shoot. Peace

You are right, talk is cheap. There really is no way to describe the difference between nitro and electric.

I honestly belive that nitro will always be around because companies like traxxas made it easy. Unless there is a severe temp extreme most nitro vehicles will start reasonably easily, and after that they can be played with. People who just want to play and do not have much technical ability or lintelligence can operate a nitro. Maybe not to the fullest extent of the design, but it still drives and produces grins!

Brushless electric requires more intimate knowledge of batteries and chargers and setup, plus motors, escs and gearing. If you like making stuff and tinkering (like most of us here do) then electric has more options than nitro. Consider what the rock crawling crowd do, and FE boat guys, and all of the electric heli and plane people.

I will go as far to say that electric is more difficult than nitro. I can tune a nitro motor, and a clutch. I have fixed tons of nitro vehicles for the LHS and the owners usually have no idea what they are doing save for pulling the trigger.

As far as racing, electric is not really popular due to strange sanctioning bodies rules and the general lack of proven "systems". The top drivers like what they are doing, and the change to electric would require a huge amount of money and time to get working. Plius most mfgs make nitro stuff, so that is what is raced. Not too many off the shelf brushless vehicles yet. Brushless has been around for a while, but it is a delicate equation to balance to make it work.

If you are the kind of guy who likes a challenge, and has some manual dexterity you will enjoy brushless electric. Get ready to learn alot, as doing bl right takes a fair amount of knowledge.

As far as vids and proof, you just need to look around, it is there. No doubt brushless has more power, torque and gearing potential than nitro. It also has lower maintenance and is cleaner. And don't forget that Nitro is cheaper, and that is why it is still around... Admittedly a comparable bl setup to a nitro vehicle for speed and power would be pretty cheap, a bk esc and a l can feigao on 2 1500 nicd stickpacks in series should do...

[jayjay283]

whats the argument, if you don't get it you may never. Can't make a depressed person stop wanting to eat a bullet. Can't make Ghandi eat. Some are set in their ways and the earth still revolves with or without them LOL stuff is and can be better, just LOOK ......brushless

[Rivermaxx]

Whats the saying "Put up or shut up" So far nic case is the only one who can walk the walk and talk the talk. heres a link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLOGAvhyJ84 Now that is awesome!!.

[jayjay283]

Nic spoke, he begged us to put up and we all wussed, you put up...next year maybe if obama gives me the $5000 for being a loser fund he promised