DT's new 1:1 - XRS Corolla

Originally Posted by Unsullied_Spy

Still a lot of boost Very impressive that such a small engine can do that, but what kind of life can you expect out of the drivetrain?

the supra makes 2000hp on c16 45psi with 3.4L i6
this is at the engine not wheels
do not dout small ci
Because when the turbo spins the bulls@#$ will end
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwOlU...eature=related

Originally Posted by Unsullied_Spy

That's still impressive for such a fairly cheap car. The dealer wanted $33k for the one I drove, and it had quite a few goodies on it. An STI or Evo is harder to get, costs more, and you get fewer goodies with them (and they don't look as good, IMO). Personally I prefer the looks of the 370 to the 350, the new one looks less bubbly.

350z looks better but 370z is not afrad of an evo

[ClodMaxx]

Originally Posted by Unsullied_Spy

That's still impressive for such a fairly cheap car. The dealer wanted $33k for the one I drove, and it had quite a few goodies on it. An STI or Evo is harder to get, costs more, and you get fewer goodies with them (and they don't look as good, IMO). Personally I prefer the looks of the 370 to the 350, the new one looks less bubbly.

agreed... i got to drive a friends new 370, and holy crap its quicker than my 350. nissan really nailed it with the new version. of course it has more to it.... stock 330hp (i think?) compared to my ~300hp, but still.... any Z is one heck of a value for what you're getting! i get an ear to ear smile every time i drive it. it can always be faster...but i've learned to be happy with what i have.

Originally Posted by BP-Revo

While that 350 was quick, one has to realize that the Viper has 2 gears to ~100mph. The Z hits 100 about 2/3 of the way through 4th. So 3 and half gears you could say.

To 135 or so the Z has about 5 gears, the Viper has 3. You could see once the Z hit 6th and the Viper hit 4th, it quickly started running the Z down (but the race ended soon after).

Vipers are not particularly fast despite having mountain-moving torque and monstrous HP figures. The reason is that they are geared to the moon. I mean, they are still fast, but they lose a lot because the gearing is just so tall. So to 100mph, they aren't exactly blistering. But the point is that they do not slow down much. They pull hard all the way up to 175+

for youhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlUrD...eature=related

wow, this has veered off in standard RC-M fashion... 4g63t, i will not be racing anyone. sure the car is quick, but it is certainly not fast and it is my daily so it will remain stock

[ClodMaxx]

sorry dicky... i take the blame for this course correction. i get all excited when someone mentions a Z.

thanks for your info, too.

[lincpimp]

I have to disagree on the statement that Vipers do not handle very well. I have driven a few, some stock and some modded and they could take the turns well. Ride was a bit rough, but no worse than a Z is on Louisiana roads (imagine the worst road you have ever been on, that is our best). The venom vipers did handle a bit better than stock, even though I was "tail out" round most turns, hehehe... I used to enjoy drifting the viper in the parking lots the rice kids would hang out in, lets see a fwd civic do that!

I will say that the viper was much more entertaining to drive than the Z, but also cost twice as much so I guess it should be. I did prefer the 3rd gen rx7 for handling over both, but it is a small car that the weight balance has been optimized in. I like most cars as well, they are all fun in their own way. I have to say I prefer a big supercharged V8, can't match the sound or torque with anything else. The viper just sounds weird at full tilt... 10 cylinders...

sorry to

Originally Posted by lincpimp

I did prefer the 3rd gen rx7 for handling over both, but it is a small car that the weight balance has been optimized in.

I had a 95 FD on JIC Magic coilovers, racing beat sways and strut braces with a cusco LSD, lots of go fast things too, but we are talking about handling here.

It is hands down the best handling car I have ever driven. It was a little weak on the bottom end, but 1.3 liters with a single t88 tends to be a bit weak below say 6k rpm.....

Originally Posted by DickyT

I had a 95 FD on JIC Magic coilovers, racing beat sways and strut braces with a cusco LSD, lots of go fast things too, but we are talking about handling here.

It is hands down the best handling car I have ever driven. It was a little weak on the bottom end, but 1.3 liters with a single t88 tends to be a bit weak below say 6k rpm.....

wow you had a t88 13b lots of lag?
what do you think of the 20b

[nitrostarter]

You guys need some of this in your lives:

Originally Posted by nitrostarter

You guys need some of this in your lives:

i love all cars

Originally Posted by 4g63t

wow you had a t88 13b lots of lag?
what do you think of the 20b

The 20b is cool albeit overkill. it makes more torque low down though. Lag is an understatement, with out nitrous it took 6400 rpm to hit full boost. on the bottle (150 shot) I was full boost by 4800 rpm with a 5k cutoff for the nitrous.

Originally Posted by nitrostarter

You guys need some of this in your lives:

very nice! I like good ole' pushrod power too

Originally Posted by DickyT

The 20b is cool albeit overkill. it makes more torque low down though. Lag is an understatement, with out nitrous it took 6400 rpm to hit full boost. on the bottle (150 shot) I was full boost by 4800 rpm with a 5k cutoff for the nitrous.

wow what ems and was it easy
to drive